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Industar-69 28mm f/2.8: Helicoid Service, Reassembly and a Macro Test

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Industar-69 28mm f/2.8: Helicoid Service, Reassembly and a Macro Test

Industar-69 28mm f/2.8: Helicoid Service, Reassembly and a Macro Test

"A focusing helicoid is a screw that must turn smoothly for decades. Mark everything before it comes apart, and it will go back exactly where it was."
— Notes from the repair bench

The earlier account of the Chaika-2M shutter repair left one job undescribed: servicing the lens. A colleague noticed the omission at once, and rightly so. The work is specialized and has enough steps to deserve its own write-up, and the lens itself, the Industar-69, is more interesting than its modest role on a half-frame camera would suggest.

The Industar-69 has a flange focal distance of 27.5 mm and fully covers the 18×24 mm half frame. That combination gives it a life beyond the Chaika. Because the half frame is close in size to an APS-C sensor, the lens can be fitted to modern digital cameras of that format. On bodies with the long register of a reflex camera it cannot reach infinity, but it becomes a capable macro lens. On a mirrorless body, through a simple M39×1 adapter, it can serve as an ordinary everyday lens. In working condition it is a well-specified optic that produces a very good image, which is reason enough to restore one properly. What follows is the complete procedure.

Construction and Preparation

The lens consists of three mechanical elements: the focusing helicoid, a removable focusing ring carrying the distance scale, and the aperture ring. Optical specifications can wait until the end. Before anything is loosened, a few preparatory steps are essential, and the first is to open the aperture fully to f/2.8.

Front view of the Industar-69 28mm f/2.8 lens with the aperture ring set to its widest opening
The Industar-69 from the front, aperture ring turned to f/2.8. Opening the diaphragm fully fixes a known reference position before any part is moved.

Seen from the rear, only one detail matters at this stage: the slotted ring around the rear element. It retains the rear cemented group, and it must be left alone. Unscrewing it without knowing what it holds will simply let the cemented component drop out. That ring is removed only when the optical block itself has to be dismantled, and there is no reason to do so here. The glass is in excellent condition and will need nothing more than a cleaning with candle soot at the end of the job.

Rear of the Industar-69 showing the slotted retaining ring of the rear cemented lens group
The rear of the lens. The two-slot ring holds the cemented rear group in place; it stays untouched unless the optical block is to be taken apart.

Next, the focusing scale is set to infinity.

Industar-69 distance scale set with the infinity mark opposite the red index triangle
The distance scale at infinity. The arrow points to the red index, now aligned with the infinity symbol; this is the reference state for both disassembly and reassembly.

The lens is then turned over, and scribe marks are made across the adjoining surfaces of the helicoid parts. These marks will make reassembly far easier and far more precise.

Magnified view through a loupe of a fine scribe mark across two adjoining helicoid surfaces
Through the loupe: a fine witness mark scratched across the moving and fixed parts of the helicoid at the infinity setting. It is the key to an exact fine adjustment later.

Removing the Focusing Ring

With the marks in place, the focusing ring can come off. The lens is held firmly so that nothing shifts, and the three screws spaced around the circumference of the ring are loosened.

Side of the Industar-69 focusing ring with an arrow on one of its three small retaining screws
One of the three radial screws that clamp the focusing ring to the helicoid. They need only be loosened, not removed entirely.

Once the screws are backed off, the ring lifts away from the moving section of the helicoid that carries the optical block.

Industar-69 with its engraved focusing ring removed and set beside it, with a small screwdriver
The focusing ring off the lens, with the watchmaker's screwdriver used for its screws. The moving helicoid and the optical block remain as one unit.

This is the moment to stop and observe one relationship carefully: the position of the red dot of the aperture index relative to the limit pin. It will be needed again during reassembly.

Loupe view of the red aperture index dot and the limit pin on the Industar-69 helicoid
Two arrows mark the red index dot and the limit pin beneath it. Their relative position at infinity is the coarse reference for reassembly.

The focusing ring has a single stop on its inner side.

Inside of the removed Industar-69 focusing ring with an arrow on its single stop
The focusing ring from below. The arrow marks its only stop, which bears against the limit pins of the fixed helicoid.

The fixed part of the helicoid, on the inner side of its flange, has two limit pins. The one indicated by the red arrow defines the infinity position. The one indicated by the yellow arrow prevents the moving part of the helicoid from running past the minimum focusing distance, which is normally 0.8 meter. It is worth noting now that this second pin can be unscrewed if a shorter minimum distance is wanted, for example when the lens is used for close-up work on a digital camera. With the pin removed, the helicoid gains additional travel and the lens can focus considerably closer.

Industar-69 fixed helicoid flange with a red arrow on the infinity stop pin and a yellow arrow on the close-focus stop pin
The two stops on the fixed helicoid: red arrow for the infinity pin, yellow arrow for the pin that limits close focus to 0.8 m. Removing the latter extends the travel for macro use.

The arrangement of parts on the rear side should be noted as well before going further.

Rear view of the Industar-69 helicoid assembly with the focusing ring removed
The assembly seen from behind with the focusing ring off. Recording this view saves guesswork when the parts are brought back together.

Separating the Helicoid

The two helicoid sections can now be unscrewed, turning counterclockwise. Three and a half turns are needed before they part. The exact angular position at which they separate must be remembered, because they have to be re-engaged in precisely that position. Only then will the correct start of the multi-start thread be found.

Industar-69 helicoid sections at the point of separation with arrows on the red dot, the limit pin and the scale index
The point of separation after three and a half turns. The arrows tie together the red dot, the limit pin and the index triangle; matching them again selects the correct thread start.

In principle the lens is now apart, but the optical block still has to be unscrewed from the moving helicoid.

Three Industar-69 subassemblies: the fixed helicoid, the focusing ring and the moving helicoid with the optical block
The lens in three pieces: the fixed helicoid with its internal thread, the focusing ring behind it, and the moving helicoid still carrying the optical block.

This part, the optical block with the aperture ring,

Industar-69 optical block with aperture ring indicated by an arrow, resting in the helicoid
The arrow identifies the optical block and its aperture ring, the component that has to come out of the moving helicoid.

has to come out of this part of the helicoid.

Moving helicoid section of the Industar-69 tilted to show its external thread coated with old grease
The moving helicoid section that holds the optical block. Its external multi-start thread is coated with old, darkened lubricant.

To remove the block, the aperture ring is gripped between two fingers on its knurling, and with modest force the block is unscrewed from the helicoid counterclockwise. This thread is single-start, so no marks are required here.

Fingers gripping the knurled aperture ring of the Industar-69 to unscrew the optical block
Unscrewing the optical block by hand. The arrows show where the fingertips bear on the knurled aperture ring; no tool is needed and none should be used on this edge.

The helicoid is now free.

Industar-69 optical block removed from the moving helicoid, shown with the other helicoid parts
The optical block, arrowed, separated from the helicoid. All three mechanical parts are now accessible for cleaning.

Condition of the Old Lubricant

Here is the helicoid thread itself. The grease on it clearly needs replacing.

Close view of the Industar-69 moving helicoid external thread with dried, dirty grease in the grooves
The external helicoid thread. The original grease has thickened and collected grit, which makes focusing stiff and uneven.

And the same thread from another angle.

Moving helicoid of the Industar-69 standing upright, showing contaminated grease along the thread flanks
A second view of the moving helicoid. The deposits sit deep in the thread roots, where a solvent alone will not reach.

This is the inside of the helicoid, where the optical block seats.

Inside of the Industar-69 helicoid where the optical block seats, with dirt on the internal thread
The bore that receives the optical block, with its single-start internal thread and accumulated dirt along the edge.

Cleaning

The mechanical side of the lens is now fully dismantled, and cleaning can begin. The threads are washed in benzine, and the grooves of each turn are scraped out with a wooden toothpick to remove the dirt that has worked its way into them.

Disassembled Industar-69 parts laid out before cleaning: helicoid sections, focusing ring and optical block
All the mechanical components laid out for cleaning: both helicoid sections, the focusing ring and the optical block with its aperture ring.

After washing, every part is clean and bright, and assembly can begin.

Cleaned Industar-69 helicoid parts with bright, grease-free threads ready for assembly
The parts after cleaning. The threads are bare metal again, free of old lubricant and debris.

Reassembly

The optical block goes back first. It is screwed into the helicoid by the same method used to remove it, and tightened firmly but not hard: enough that it will not back out while the aperture ring is being set.

Industar-69 optical block screwed back into the cleaned moving helicoid
The optical block reinstalled in the moving helicoid, snug enough to stay put while the remaining adjustments are made.

Grease is then applied to the helicoid thread, and in modest quantity, as shown here; more is not needed. The range of helicoid greases available today is wide, but out of long habit I use the proven OKB-122-7.

Small dabs of OKB-122-7 grease applied to the Industar-69 helicoid thread
A few small deposits of OKB-122-7 on the multi-start thread. Turning the helicoid spreads them into an even film; excess grease would only migrate toward the glass.

The aperture ring is set to full aperture once more, and the aperture index and distance scale index are placed opposite each other. In this position the thread starts engage correctly.

Industar-69 helicoid sections engaged with the aperture index aligned to the distance scale index
The two helicoid sections brought together at full aperture with the indices facing each other, so that the right thread start is caught.

The helicoid is now screwed in three and a half turns, until the red dot meets the travel stop. That is the coarse setting.

Industar-69 helicoid screwed fully home with the red dot against the travel stop
Coarse adjustment complete: after three and a half turns the red dot sits against the infinity stop, just as it did before disassembly.

The lens is turned over and the scribe marks made at the start are brought into line. That is the fine setting.

Loupe view of the realigned scribe marks on the Industar-69 helicoid parts
Fine adjustment under the loupe: the witness marks once again meet across the joint, restoring the factory infinity position.

In this position the focusing ring is fitted and its screws are tightened. The setting obtained this way is very accurate and normally needs no further adjustment. It can still be confirmed on a ground-glass screen. If there is any discrepancy, the ring screws are loosened, the helicoid is set more precisely, and the screws are tightened again. A workshop would use a collimator for this, but at home that is rarely an option.

Reassembled Industar-69 with the focusing ring fitted and the infinity mark on the red index
The focusing ring back on and clamped, with infinity on the red index. A check on ground glass, or on a collimator where one is available, confirms the result.

After the lenses are washed and cleaned with candle soot, the Industar-69 is ready to go back on the camera.

Serviced Industar-69 mounted on the front of a Chaika half-frame camera
The serviced lens back in its M39×1 mount on the Chaika, focusing smoothly across its full range.

A Practical Test on an APS-C Body

The job could end here, but it is worth seeing how the lens actually draws. No mirrorless body was at hand, as mine was on loan at the time, so the test is done in macro. The first step is to convert the M39×1 thread to M42×1 with an adapter ring.

Thin M39 to M42 adapter ring beside the rear of the Industar-69
The M39×1 to M42×1 step ring next to the lens. It adds almost no length, so it does not affect the register calculation.

Fitted, it looks like this.

Industar-69 with the M39 to M42 adapter ring screwed onto its mount thread, arrow on the ring
The adapter ring threaded onto the lens, arrowed. The Industar-69 now presents a standard M42 thread.

A second adapter then mounts the lens on a camera with a 23.5×15.6 mm sensor and a 44.5 mm flange distance. With this combination, the distance from the front rim of the lens barrel to the subject at the point of focus is five centimeters.

M42 to camera bayonet adapter set beside the Industar-69 fitted with its step ring
The M42 to camera bayonet adapter. Because the 44.5 mm register is 17 mm longer than the lens was designed for, infinity is lost and the lens becomes a close-focusing optic.

The assembly is ready.

Industar-69 mounted on the M42 bayonet adapter, ready to attach to the camera
The complete stack: Industar-69, step ring and bayonet adapter, ready to go on the APS-C body.

Sample Photographs

The natural first subject is a watch. This frame was taken at f/2.8.

Macro photograph of a mechanical watch movement in an open case taken with the Industar-69 at f/2.8
A mechanical movement in its opened case at f/2.8. The balance and train bridge are sharp; the depth of field is very shallow and falls off quickly toward the edges.

Stopped down to f/11, the zone of unsharpness evens out noticeably.

The same watch movement photographed with the Industar-69 stopped down to f/11
The same movement at f/11. The wheels, screws and jewels across the plate now resolve far more uniformly.

The next subject was whatever lay nearest: a lens cap, at f/2.8.

Close-up of a black lens cap with an embossed logo, taken with the Industar-69 at f/2.8
A lens cap at f/2.8. The embossed lettering is crisp, while the raised grips above and below already soften.

Then a portrait of sorts, of a small porcelain doll, at f/2.8.

Close-up portrait of a porcelain doll's face shot with the Industar-69 at full aperture
A doll's face at f/2.8. Focus falls on the eyes, and the curls behind dissolve into a soft background.

Stopped down to f/11.

The same porcelain doll photographed with the Industar-69 at f/11, with more of the face in focus
The doll at f/11. The face and hair hold detail much further from the plane of focus.

A look inside an artificial flower at f/2.8.

Macro view inside a purple artificial flower with orange stamens at f/2.8 through the Industar-69
The center of an artificial flower at f/2.8. Only the nearest stamens are sharp; the petals render as broad smooth tones.

The same subject at f/11.

The purple artificial flower photographed again with the Industar-69 at f/11
The flower at f/11. The stamens and the frayed petal edges are now defined across the whole frame.

Another watch to finish. This frame was made at f/2.8.

Chronograph dial with blue subdials photographed close up with the Industar-69 at f/2.8
A chronograph dial at f/2.8. The central hands are sharp, while the outer chapter ring drifts out of focus.

And this one at f/11.

The same chronograph dial taken with the Industar-69 at f/11, sharp across subdials and markers
The chronograph at f/11. Subdials, applied markers and printing are all legible from edge to edge.

Reproduction Ratio

One purely technical point remains. On a camera with a 44.5 mm register, with the focusing ring set to infinity, the frame takes in 36 mm across its width. Given the physical width of the sensor, that corresponds to a reproduction ratio of roughly 1:1.5. It is simply a technical fact, but a useful one for anyone planning close-up work with this lens.

Steel ruler photographed with the Industar-69 on an APS-C camera showing about 36 mm across the frame
A steel rule across the frame shows the field width of about 36 mm. Against a 23.5 mm sensor this gives a scale of roughly 1:1.5.

Conclusions

The image quality is good. Stopping down evens out the picture markedly, both in sharpness across the frame and in the transition into the out-of-focus zone. A landscape test was not possible this time, since no suitable camera was available. Anyone working with the Industar-69 should keep in mind that its flange focal distance is 27.5 mm, which is different from that of rangefinder cameras with the same M39 thread.

That covers everything needed to bring the lens back into full working order. How it is used from here is up to its owner.

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By nemoi13 · 04/03/2021

Could you tell me how much you would charge to overhaul, clean and put a Helios-44 lens in order? I have one that takes decent pictures, but the rings turn rather stiffly.

By vanenzo · 04/03/2021 in reply to nemoi13

Have they stopped selling them for 300 to 500 rubles, or simply by weight?

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to vanenzo

"For 300 to 500 rubles"? Well, actually… [a link to a 2021 eBay.de listing of a rare early Helios-44 2/58 with 13 diaphragm blades; the listing is no longer reachable] And a great deal depends on condition.

By vanenzo · 04/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

Brutal.

By TOLSTOPUZ · 04/03/2021 in reply to vanenzo

Agreed… take a look at Meshok, it is nothing but resellers, same as on eBay…

By Soviet Box · 22/03/2021 in reply to vanenzo

And polished-out on top of that (

By JoraGn · 04/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

Actually, Helios-44s differ. This one, for example, has as many as 13 matte diaphragm blades. That is a lot, and very good for the rendering of a photograph. Later ones were already simpler.

By OreSama · 04/03/2021 in reply to vanenzo

They stopped long ago. And foreigners are sold them for even more than Jena Tessars, which are photographically more interesting.

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to nemoi13

If you look at my location, you will see why shipping makes no sense. Please forgive me.

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

But perhaps this will help you?

By nemoi13 · 04/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

I have seen it. But I will not go in myself, since I am not sure my hands are steady enough.

By karabas7650 · 04/03/2021

Thank you… Very interesting, as always…

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to karabas7650

Thank you, Boris!

By Demien · 04/03/2021

Quoting: "with an M39×1 to mirrorless camera adapter it can serve perfectly well as a standard lens." Unfortunately, most adapters with this thread are designed precisely for the rangefinder register of 28.8 mm. Quoting: "When working with the Industar-69, keep in mind that its flange distance of 27.5 mm differs from that of rangefinder cameras." But the internet has plenty of instructions on how to turn 27.5 into 28.8 with a file.

By Bbarmaley · 04/03/2021 in reply to Demien

Just throw one lens element out.

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to Bbarmaley

"Just throw one element out"? And here the recommendation was to file it, file it… In fact, two things can be done. First, unscrew the stop marked with the red arrow. That lets the helicoid sink another millimeter. It will not go further because of the conical part of the helicoid. That is where the file helps: take enough off the body for the helicoid to settle another half millimeter inward. That gives exactly what is needed.

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to Demien

Quoting "Unfortunately, most adapters…": there are adapters that allow this to be corrected. Quoting "the internet has plenty of instructions…": you see how simple it is. You just take a file and…

By harusame · 04/03/2021

I use the same lens as a magnifying glass. Sometimes I take photographs with it, and sometimes I inspect soldering on circuit boards for faults and broken traces.

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to harusame

Note how versatile this lens is!

By Professore · 04/03/2021 in reply to harusame

For a magnifying glass its elements are too small in diameter and its field of view too narrow. It is closer to an eye loupe.

By asm · 04/03/2021

Our ancestors certainly knew how to make coatings, zoom, autofocus and stabilization!

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to asm

Our ancestors knew how, without having coatings, zoom, autofocus and stabilization at their disposal, to make photographs that became part of the world's artistic heritage. Unlike their descendants, who have coatings, zoom, autofocus and stabilization at their disposal and can photograph nothing but cats. Probably it is not about technical progress, but about Kenna, Hoflehner, Sally Mann, Kolosov. About whether a person was born an artist or not. And if not… well, let us go to the forum and start measuring lens parameters. What else is there to do? Shooting is pointless. We will not stand alongside Kenna, Hoflehner, Sally Mann and Kolosov anyway. But unlike them, we will talk about coatings, zoom, autofocus and stabilization…

By asm · 05/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

Are you saying modern artists chase old lenses like these? It is exactly the other way around: every photographer who has just bought a DSLR spends money on L lenses, and on old glass with adapters, purely to stroke his ego. As for the old masters managing with old lenses, I assure you that had they had new ones, they would have preferred the new.

By vilgraf · 05/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

Spot on, maestro, spot on… That is exactly why a masterpiece can be shot even with an old Helios, by those who are photographers. And photographs of cats belong in the fire.

By Soviet Box · 06/03/2021 in reply to vilgraf

The thing is, the last thing a photographer needs is a camera. And there will always be more good cameras than good photographers.

By AlexandrPetrovich · 04/03/2021

Thanks for the review. Interesting as always, even if it is not about watches!

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to AlexandrPetrovich

Thank you! We will return to watches. One needs a little rest, too.

By sov39 · 04/03/2021

Thanks for an excellent review; I always learn something new. About the collimator: modern ones are laser-based and center lens elements with very high accuracy, with an error of no more than 1 to 2 micrometers. At home such accuracy is unnecessary, but at least an indicator that would show whether an element sat true when the optical block is assembled would be useful. I converted my I-69 to 28.8 by removing all three pins, and the minimum focusing distance became 15 to 18 cm. If it still does not reach infinity, the adapter ring can be carefully ground down on 200-grit paper.

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to sov39

Thank you! Yes, exactly so. But throwing out all the stops risks the helicoid falling out of its thread. True, it is only a two-start thread there, but it can still be lost. In my adapter the threaded ring has some freedom of movement in the bayonet, about a millimeter. So throw out the pin marked with the red arrow and all will be well. Yes, there will be no stop at infinity, but that is not critical.

By sov39 · 04/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

Right, but it will only fall out after four turns. Just do not shoot closer than 20 cm. And "throwing out" the stops was in quotation marks, of course. Besides, after such a conversion the lens can still be used on its native Chaika-2, although film is no longer a cheap pleasure.

By ALE_X · 04/03/2021

A like, of course, as always. But what about my Leningrad? I will probably end up like Father Fyodor in the episode with engineer Bruns from The Twelve Chairs.

By ALE_X · 04/03/2021 in reply to ALE_X

[a link to a YouTube video that has since been removed]

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to ALE_X

Thank you! "Leningrad, Leningrad, I do not want to yet…"! You know, besides the Leningrad there were other works of mechanical art, the Kiev-15, for example, or the Zenit-5 or 6. A mechanic's nightmare of a kind.

By ALE_X · 04/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

I have a Kiev-10, and even two or three lenses for it. It is a little older than the Kiev-15, but the same mechanic's nightmare. As for the Leningrad: "Not of my own audacity, but solely by the will of the wife who sent me…" Imagine what a beautiful report you would get. A great many people have never even heard of this camera.

By Professore · 04/03/2021 in reply to ALE_X

We have heard of the camera. But its GUTS! Top secret. Only murky reprints of murky photographs from those years. The Kiev-10 and 15 I have taken apart and repaired. In places it is a German nightmare, with one part held by six or seven screws. In places it is a domestic nightmare. You can feel the German design school of the Reich, and the local indifference too: high-precision parts made of rust-prone steel, and a body casting weighing a kilogram. The Zenit-5 and 6, in my humble opinion, are nothing interesting or complicated. Even the Horizon is more interesting.

By ALE_X · 04/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

Look what a beauty.
Leningrad rangefinder camera with Jupiter-8 lens, front view
Leningrad rangefinder camera lying on a photo book, top view
Leningrad rangefinder camera with Jupiter-8 lens against green foliage

By yoma · 04/03/2021 in reply to ALE_X

And how many megapixels does it have?

By Professore · 05/03/2021 in reply to yoma

How many do you need? For Ostap Bender's happiness? It depends on the film, whatever you can get hold of.

By Aleksey_Rem · 04/03/2021

Quoting "After washing the lenses and cleaning them with candle soot": that would also be interesting!

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to Aleksey_Rem

More about it here. But it seems the description of the method has to be repeated whenever lenses come up. I understand that not everyone follows every publication.

By Mishakov · 04/03/2021

The lens is of no practical interest. In 100 to 200 years its collector value may be considerable.

By Maxim_Sed · 04/03/2021 in reply to Mishakov

It is thanks to this kind of publicity for domestic photographic equipment that prices stay high among speculators and resellers. Alas.

By OreSama · 04/03/2021 in reply to Maxim_Sed

Reseller prices are held up by nothing but reseller greed. In reality there is no practical reason to buy an I-69 for more than 500 to 700 rubles; it does nothing SPECIAL with the image. At least, none of the Industars, including the conceptually similar Volna-9, has ever appealed to me.

By TOLSTOPUZ · 04/03/2021 in reply to Maxim_Sed

The eBay resellers are downvoting, too! I upvoted.

By ezyk091978 · 04/03/2021

Thanks for an excellent review! The I-69 is a good lens. Because of their optical design, Industars get along quite well with mirrorless cameras; you just need to take their color rendering into account. For most Industars it was computed for black-and-white film. Of the full-frame Industars, I like the Industar-61 L/Z best: it is very convenient to shoot with, sharp wide open, and its bokeh at middle apertures can be worked into the subject.

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to ezyk091978

Thank you! Yes, it is a decent lens. Its MTF is quite acceptable, and it is fairly contrasty at transitions. There is also the I-81, close to it in rendering, which was fitted to the full-frame FED Mikron-2. I shot a great deal with it in the early 1990s. Its one drawback is the edges, where spherical aberration is noticeable, but from f/5.6 it is already negligible. Here, note the out-of-focus zone, which is visible in the photographs: from f/8 on it is remarkably even. The Industar-61 L/Z, specifically the L/Z, is a superb lens; in the old days people queued for it. Among the late Soviet lenses there is also the Helios-81 MC, or Arsat-N. A magnificent lens. I still take good care of mine.

By ezyk091978 · 04/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

Yes, the transition into the out-of-focus zone is good both wide open and stopped down. And chromatic aberration is absent altogether. The colors are, in my view, somewhat muted, but they are rendered correctly. As a variant of the Tessar, the Industar separates planes well. Triplets are rather harsh and do fine at infinity. Lenses with more elements usually have higher speed, which brings its own limitations. Mass-market modern zooms do not separate planes very well in close-up shooting: some double, some smear. There are, of course, some with a perfectly decent rendering, but their price is for professionals. I never got to hold an Arsat; in Moscow it was already a rare beast. And interesting things happened with lenses under Soviet rule. Sometimes it was easier to buy a Zenit with the Helios or Industar you needed than to buy the lens alone. I knew people who had three or four such Zenits gathering dust on the top shelves.

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to ezyk091978

Quoting "the colors are, in my view, somewhat muted": I think my camera is set to "soft", I do not remember. All of that is solvable and not essential in the digital era. It was in manual printing that a lens's color rendering had to be taken into account and corrected.

By ezyk091978 · 05/03/2021 in reply to Soviet Box

A great many things had to be taken into account back then. Before minilabs appeared, color photography was something like black magic. Selecting correction filters for printing alone was quite something. Here is one: a double-height gym is brightly lit by the sun, but fluorescent lamps are burning under the ceiling. Question: when shooting on daylight film, is a correction filter needed, and if so, which one? Remember that color film does not tolerate overexposure. You have less than a minute to answer.

By Maxim_Sed · 05/03/2021 in reply to ezyk091978

If the subjects are lit by direct sunlight through the windows, no filters are needed, because no lamps can outdo sunlight in power.

By ezyk091978 · 05/03/2021 in reply to Maxim_Sed

That is if you shoot with the light. But what if you shoot against the light, so that both highlights and shadows come out? Questions, questions.

By Maxim_Sed · 05/03/2021 in reply to ezyk091978

For sports reportage in such conditions there is only one recipe: a 200 to 300 joule monolight powered from the 220 V mains, ideally a pair, on radio triggers. On the camera, the shortest flash sync speed: 1/160 to 1/200, or 1/250 for top-end DSLRs. High-speed sync does not count, because monolights do not support it remotely. Aperture and ISO to taste. Only that way do you get fewer rejects.

By alexrus_777 · 04/03/2021

On DxOMark, sharpness is an important parameter in lens testing. Putting a lens with a 12 MP rating on a 42 or 20 MP body is a so-so option. If it is a pursuit for the soul, I do not argue: the image is pleasant and the blur is quite good.
DxOMark score panel with lens metric scores for sharpness, transmission, distortion, vignetting and chromatic aberration

By keydy · 04/03/2021

Soviet Box, huge thanks. I always read your articles with pleasure. I am a mechanic myself and can hit a hundredth of a millimeter or even a micron, but I have always envied people whose hands are so steady that they can cope with wristwatches or sort out optics. These are matters too fine for my clumsy fingers. With sincere respect, thank you again.

By Soviet Box · 04/03/2021 in reply to keydy

Thank you very much, keydy!

By Professore · 05/03/2021 in reply to keydy

Come on! Optics in film cameras is only 0.03 mm in terms of mechanics. A dial indicator and a stand are enough. After that come ground glass, test shots of a resolution chart, and a homemade collimator made from a Chinese green laser.

By kamic · 05/03/2021

It is not good to write a review without the optical diagram.
Optical scheme of the Industar-69: four elements in three groups, Tessar type

By Soviet Box · 05/03/2021 in reply to kamic

Quoting "It is not good": "A little son came to his father, and the little one asked: what is good, and what is bad?"

By Fire_bird · 06/03/2021 in reply to kamic

Whoever needs it will find it online anyway, and for the purpose of cleaning there is no need for it at all.

By vilgraf · 05/03/2021

I read the review with great pleasure. It reminded me, with regret, of the era of mechanical film cameras.

By Soviet Box · 06/03/2021 in reply to vilgraf

Thank you! I do not think there is anything to regret. Everything rises to a higher level with time. But right now I am holding a certain gadget in my hands. It needs to be put right. Nostalgia, after all.

By kuvalda · 10/03/2021

Worthy work, of course. But it is fuss for the sake of fuss; nobody will appreciate the result. This equipment belongs in a museum.

By Soviet Box · 11/11/2023 in reply to kuvalda

[Answered with a poem by V. Belozersky from his collection Timeless Verses. In it, an antique fusee clock ticks steadily in a carved teak case in a museum, while a visitor studies its ornate hands through the glass. The clock tells the idle onlooker that he, too, will one day end up in a museum, in a teak case of his own.]